Comments on: We Irresponsibly Speculate on the SMALLVILLE Shake Up http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/ theTVaddict.com is your number one source on the net for TV news, scoop, reviews and commentary on all of your favourite TV shows. Check out theTVaddict.com daily for commentary, a WHAT TO WATCH TVguide, and a weekly podcast. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:04:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: KaeDee http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252652 KaeDee Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:14:47 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252652 I don't agree with the "CW interfering" scenario. All networks have input into the shows on their network; its part of being in the TV business, and Gough and Miller know that and have accommodated that for 7 seasons. Second, I didn't mind the Stride gum product placement. It brought my world into the Smallville world, and I thought it was funny. (Though I will say I thought the idea of Kryptonite gum was silly.) I also don't think Gough and Miller thought the series would last this long. They were stuck in the Clark growing up with his childhood crush scenario. You can't have Smallville on the air for 7 seasons with Clark always running away from his destiny and pining after Lana when everyone knows he ends up with Lois, his true love. I don't think G&M thought of how to let Clark grow up; that wasn't the premise for their initially-proposed show. The series was getting stale with all the super-visitors and everyone under the sun being Kryptonite infected. Solution? Have Clark go back to college to get his journalism degree! Have him work with Chloe and Lois on assignments for the Daily Planet, maybe eventually have him intern at the daily planet and start dealing with some regular criminal types. This would still be exciting and bring the series a little of the reality if had in the first couple of seasons. It would also create some Chloe/Jimmy tension and some Lois proximity. The show would have more grounding and less extreme plot devices like Kryptonite gum! Maybe the show needs new showrunners to achieve this. I I don’t agree with the “CW interfering” scenario. All networks have input into the shows on their network; its part of being in the TV business, and Gough and Miller know that and have accommodated that for 7 seasons.

Second, I didn’t mind the Stride gum product placement. It brought my world into the Smallville world, and I thought it was funny. (Though I will say I thought the idea of Kryptonite gum was silly.)

I also don’t think Gough and Miller thought the series would last this long. They were stuck in the Clark growing up with his childhood crush scenario. You can’t have Smallville on the air for 7 seasons with Clark always running away from his destiny and pining after Lana when everyone knows he ends up with Lois, his true love. I don’t think G&M thought of how to let Clark grow up; that wasn’t the premise for their initially-proposed show. The series was getting stale with all the super-visitors and everyone under the sun being Kryptonite infected.

Solution? Have Clark go back to college to get his journalism degree! Have him work with Chloe and Lois on assignments for the Daily Planet, maybe eventually have him intern at the daily planet and start dealing with some regular criminal types. This would still be exciting and bring the series a little of the reality if had in the first couple of seasons. It would also create some Chloe/Jimmy tension and some Lois proximity. The show would have more grounding and less extreme plot devices like Kryptonite gum! Maybe the show needs new showrunners to achieve this. I

]]> By: Adam http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252506 Adam Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:10:16 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252506 @Common Sense - is your first name Dawn? @Common Sense - is your first name Dawn?

]]> By: Mohammad http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252488 Mohammad Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:01:55 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252488 I honestly think that it's #4. The CW was probably forcing them to do something creatively with the show that they didn't want to do. I just hope they introduce some new characters next season, or bring back old ones like the justice league, because season 8 will have 3 less characters than the rest of the seasons I honestly think that it’s #4.

The CW was probably forcing them to do something creatively with the show that they didn’t want to do.

I just hope they introduce some new characters next season, or bring back old ones like the justice league, because season 8 will have 3 less characters than the rest of the seasons

]]> By: Fiona http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252468 Fiona Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:27:13 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252468 I'm with bean. I’m with bean.

]]> By: bean http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252456 bean Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:53:46 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252456 The creators were dissapointed that their season 8 proposal regarding the apotheosis of Lana as queen of the entire freaking universe was not acceptable to DC comics. Which is saying something, considering DC's history includes 'crisis on infinite earths' and they have vast experience in handwaving away canon discrepancies with varying degrees of crackiness. There is no explanation for Lana. There will never be any explanation for Lana. Or that stupid gum thing. Yeesh. The creators were dissapointed that their season 8 proposal regarding the apotheosis of Lana as queen of the entire freaking universe was not acceptable to DC comics. Which is saying something, considering DC’s history includes ‘crisis on infinite earths’ and they have vast experience in handwaving away canon discrepancies with varying degrees of crackiness.

There is no explanation for Lana. There will never be any explanation for Lana. Or that stupid gum thing. Yeesh.

]]> By: ewanspotter http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252450 ewanspotter Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:14:11 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252450 What? How can you not want to watch Strideville? It sounds fantastic. And longlasting. What? How can you not want to watch Strideville? It sounds fantastic. And longlasting.

]]> By: Adam http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252440 Adam Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:57:33 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252440 Personally I watch the show to see how much they change the myth that is superman... but really... its gone off the deep end in the last two years... and its time for a total reboot... Kill Lana... Kill Lionel... have Martha move back home... send Chloe on her way to Gotham to investigate some Bat like hero (and stop in every now or then) Jimmy becomes that annoying friend of clarks lex turns serious bad ass business man (no more freaks but robotics and government weapons - closing farms and killing small villages without a care) but with that change no more pop ins from Clark - they could bump into each other... but they shouldnt allow clark to just show up whenever and whereever he wants... have Clark move to off the farm and start saving people in the city... have kid flash come back for a quick visit... cause another race scene around the world would be pretty cool... So what have I just done? all new women... all new action fights... time for freaks of the week to begone... and time for us to wrap this great show up with a fitting ending. For the big finale which is a 4 eps long arch of which a cross over of Clark and Bruce fighting together... at which point clark gets a costume too... and also could lead to a spin-off Gotham type series... Bruce being a rich 20-something who can fix up lex's bad business and get introduced into the series as a fling with Chloe after a fund raiser that Chloe confronts Lex and Bruce notices her and helps her by coming to her aid after lex pushes her out of his way... Bruce already fixes the some of the bad business byproducts Lex leaves behind with alot of charity and then they introduce Clark to Bruce and its like insta-friendship... Personally I watch the show to see how much they change the myth that is superman… but really…

its gone off the deep end in the last two years… and its time for a total reboot…

Kill Lana…

Kill Lionel…

have Martha move back home…

send Chloe on her way to Gotham to investigate some Bat like hero (and stop in every now or then)

Jimmy becomes that annoying friend of clarks

lex turns serious bad ass business man (no more freaks but robotics and government weapons - closing farms and killing small villages without a care) but with that change no more pop ins from Clark - they could bump into each other… but they shouldnt allow clark to just show up whenever and whereever he wants…

have Clark move to off the farm and start saving people in the city…

have kid flash come back for a quick visit… cause another race scene around the world would be pretty cool…

So what have I just done? all new women… all new action fights… time for freaks of the week to begone… and time for us to wrap this great show up with a fitting ending.

For the big finale which is a 4 eps long arch of which a cross over of Clark and Bruce fighting together… at which point clark gets a costume too… and also could lead to a spin-off Gotham type series…

Bruce being a rich 20-something who can fix up lex’s bad business and get introduced into the series as a fling with Chloe after a fund raiser that Chloe confronts Lex and Bruce notices her and helps her by coming to her aid after lex pushes her out of his way… Bruce already fixes the some of the bad business byproducts Lex leaves behind with alot of charity and then they introduce Clark to Bruce and its like insta-friendship…

]]> By: Common Sense http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252435 Common Sense Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:18:06 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252435 First, I think it's hilarious how so many "expert posters" seem to know the private, inner-workings of TV productions. How would YOU know if, quote, "The CW" was "interfering" with a show? And even if there was input, do you seriously think other networks don't dictate, as well? Get real. Second, with fewer and fewer loyal TV viewers, product placement is necessary to help pay for the shows we want to see. Would you rather have 30-minutes of commercials with only 28-minutes of acting? Don't get so uptight about trivial matters. Third, most GG fans were unhappy with ASP's own creative direction...and now you use her departure as an example to bolster your weak SV argument? And hey, VM whiners, the show lost more money than it had viewers. It never even deserved the 3rd season....why can't you get basic TV Economics 101. No viewers = no show. People were too dumb to "get it," just like with Arrested. They'd rather watch 5th Graders and Lie-Detector tests. Last, why do people have such a "love affair" with the two letters "WB," and have an unjustified built-in hatred toward "CW?" Look for the "WB" in the "CW" shows and attitude. Your bitterness isn't helping any of the shows you want to keep, that's for sure. First, I think it’s hilarious how so many “expert posters” seem to know the private, inner-workings of TV productions. How would YOU know if, quote, “The CW” was “interfering” with a show? And even if there was input, do you seriously think other networks don’t dictate, as well? Get real.

Second, with fewer and fewer loyal TV viewers, product placement is necessary to help pay for the shows we want to see. Would you rather have 30-minutes of commercials with only 28-minutes of acting? Don’t get so uptight about trivial matters.

Third, most GG fans were unhappy with ASP’s own creative direction…and now you use her departure as an example to bolster your weak SV argument? And hey, VM whiners, the show lost more money than it had viewers. It never even deserved the 3rd season….why can’t you get basic TV Economics 101. No viewers = no show. People were too dumb to “get it,” just like with Arrested. They’d rather watch 5th Graders and Lie-Detector tests.

Last, why do people have such a “love affair” with the two letters “WB,” and have an unjustified built-in hatred toward “CW?” Look for the “WB” in the “CW” shows and attitude. Your bitterness isn’t helping any of the shows you want to keep, that’s for sure.

]]> By: Robin http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252434 Robin Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:30:24 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252434 Placement... product placement... Placement… product placement…

]]> By: Robin http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252433 Robin Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:29:23 +0000 http://thetvaddict.com/2008/04/03/we-irresponsibly-speculates-on-the-smallville-shake-up/#comment-252433 The CW does seem to interfere a lot in what happens in the shows they air. It was clearly their interference in the creative process that ruined "Veronica Mars." That AS-P bolted from her own almost iconic creation, and now Millar and Gough from theirs, tells me that creative, intelligent, talented people have gotten fed up with dealing with morons with dollar signs tattooed on their behinds. The product place in the shows has gotten so bad, I (and I'm sure everybody in the production companies) cringe and want to turn the show off. I definitely make it a point afterward NEVER to buy those products, though. If advertisers had their way, they'd add their logos to the Mona Lisa and the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The CW does seem to interfere a lot in what happens in the shows they air. It was clearly their interference in the creative process that ruined “Veronica Mars.” That AS-P bolted from her own almost iconic creation, and now Millar and Gough from theirs, tells me that creative, intelligent, talented people have gotten fed up with dealing with morons with dollar signs tattooed on their behinds.

The product place in the shows has gotten so bad, I (and I’m sure everybody in the production companies) cringe and want to turn the show off. I definitely make it a point afterward NEVER to buy those products, though. If advertisers had their way, they’d add their logos to the Mona Lisa and the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

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