The TV Addict 

I was pretty disappointed to.

as for the shapeshifter’s powers, i thought it was pretty well established that she could make you see whatever she wants. that’s how she got Micah going in circles when he tried to get away. what I want to know is why she was apparently exhibiting the super strength of Jessica during her fight with Nikki.

while i kind of understand that Nathan’s arc wouldn’t have happened without Claire’s influence, thus fulfilling the “Save the cheerleader, save the world” gambit, I don’t understand why Nathan was necessary to fly Peter away from the city. doesn’t Peter already have that power?

My apologies to the writing staff… my mistake on the shapeshifting thing.

You took the words right out of my uh, mouth. I honestly expected more and felt short changed.

OMFG. for the last time, Missy’s character is not a freakin shapeshifter. How many times do ppl have to comment to get that thru your thick skull?

the bomb did go off, just in a different way. They just wanted to show that the future is not written in stone. Seriously, budget limitations did make the Sylar/Peter showdown very disappointing.

The problem with superheroes and their powers is that sometimes it’s hard to be consistent. Given all the power that Sylar has, he should be “unstoppable” and Peter should be able to absorb his powers. Hence, there are times where the audience should just let it slide.

The whole Matt and Ando thinking they can take on Sylar is just beyond stupid. But they shouldn’t be written off.

Molly Walker is just a kid. Let it be. Seriously, most ppl should be able to tolerate her mentioning “the boogeyman”. This is like saying that whenever Mohinder says “my father’s research” he should be shot.

Heroes overall has been choppy and inconsistent, but get used to it. I too worry about expanding the episode order next season. I’m hoping things don’t get thinned out too badly, given the budget restraints did become quite visible this season. Remember how Mohinder took out Sylar with the chalkboard? LOL.

but nonetheless, the finale was decent. It’s not THAT disappointing.

So, since many think the season finale wasn’t good, or at least not that great, which episode of the season do you think was the best?

I say Homecoming where Peter saved Claire.

See, I believe your questions point to why you are simply a TV addict and far from a TV Critic. The whole underlying theme is that EVERYONE of the “Heroes” could be a hero. Everyone played their part in the whole plan and everyone tried to play their role in changing the future since it wasn’t “written in stone”. Sure, Ando probably would die but he believed in changing the fate for mankind and he’s not going to just sit there and not do anything. Same with Parkman – sure he’s seen what Sylar can do but he has a wife and a kid, he’s not going to let the world go to waste by sitting there and letting it destroy itself. And with Sylar – the main thing was how no matter strong he was, when all the Heroes join forces to fight the enemy, the forces of good prevail (yes, it sounds cheesy). He was distracted wholly by each and every Hero and what they did and that lead to his downfall. It’s not about yourself and being great with all his powers he had, it’s about others – humanity – and how you work together to be great. But the whole season finale was to show you that all the current Heroes were just newbies – they haven’t realized the full maximum potential of all their powers (e.g. Peter not being able to control his powers nor fly away nor figure something out to stop himself or Sylar not being able to destroy everyone given his powers or Hiro not figuring out his full potential until he was trained by his father). The show cuts off to hint at “greater” heroes and those that have been around since feudal days of Japan and ones “worst than the boogeyman” – i can’t wait to see how badass these people are.

Hmmmm…. In terms of your points about Ando and Parkman, believe there’s a difference between being a ‘hero’ and pure stupidity.

Secondly, with reference to your opening sentence…. I believe the proper term is, “Everybody’s a critic” and the fact of the matter is that’s what I love about the internet and online communities as a whole. Everybody has a right to voice their opinion just as you have every right to disagree with me.

But in terms of the finale, I think a simple scan of the net will dictate that more people agree with my take on the finale versus yours.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of heroes coming together to fight an evil force. I just think fans who’ve stuck with the series all season long deserved a far better finale both in terms of story and dialogue.

I’m so disappointed.

The grand finale fight between Syler and Petrelli never happened, Molly just tell Mohinder that there is a more sinister guy than Syler “The one who can see her when she use her powers”. that was pretty cool, ALL THE LOVE ON THE LAST 15 MINUTES make me sick. Nobody remember to look for Syler at the end and he became Shredder of the TMNT “WOOT” pretty bad end. OZZY Osburne wife… I meant Petrillis mom has been turning into an evil bitch since the last 10 episodes but no background on that either. I think that maybe the bomb had to explode in order to take Syler out?” Could it be they all new all along that this end was going to happen. I think well get the answer when we buy the ULTRA SHINY 2XLAYER HD DVD WITH 100 HOUR OF DELETED SCENES. YEAH I believe Heroes is going to be turned into a marketing flop. I don’t need HIRO’s power to predict this is going to be turned into another LOST. It was good till it lasted, Yesterday episode just tell us one thing only. Producers believe all this crap about study’s and demographics shit that they forget what really viewers want. Shame on you for destroying one of the best shows on TV, Its not going to be the same anymore, you didn’t learn anything from LOST. Shame on you produces and executives. Shame on you.

TVAddict … I was dissappointed too but seriously you pointed all the wrong things out. The two dissapointments were: 1. The final fight was resorted to a simple punchfest and 2. Peter could just have flown himself out. What most like happened is nathan let him go and flew away from the explosion. But to rebut some of your points, here you go:

• What happened to the scene Peter’s been having visions about all season long? Where was the exploding bomb? Our heroes frantically running along a crowded New York street? Holy budget cuts Batman!
>> Peter just had a VISION … VVIISSIIOONN. It does not mean it was going to happen like that. But if you notice, everyone was there from his vision and they acted in the way his vision did. His vision was a dream interpretation of how it went, and it went exactly the way the vision went, complete with nathan coming to him in the end and the cheeleader running away … No where was it alluded that the explosion was going to happen like that … remember what the cheerleader said? Future is not written.

• Don’t get me wrong, I adore Greg Grunberg, but Matt Parkman needs to go. A seasoned police officer should have the smarts to realize he’s not about to take down Sylar with an ordinary gun. Same goes for Ando. Love him, but after witnessing what Sylar’s capable of all season long, what the Frak was he thinking going after him with a sword.
>> Dude they are just trying to be heroes

• Finally, if one more character utters the line “You’re my HERO”…
>> THE SHOW IS CALLED HEROES!!

I thought it was so cheesy!!! I’m glad I’m not the only 1. Best Finale so far :SUpernatural’s

I was pretty underwhelmed…no cliffhanger, most of the bad guys died, most of the good guys got saved, HRG got a name, Nathan is corny, and they get to fight Voldemort next season. Woo hoo. I expected alot more, especially for the final battle with Sylar.

Okay. I haven’t watched last nights ep yet but avoiding all the hatred from the finale is hard to avoid, but makes me feel slightly vindicated for defending Lost which a lot of Heroes fans (and I was still one of them) gave up on because Heroes seemed to have a whole plan going or so we thought…

I was not blown away by any means, but it was still a good episode. I couldn’t believe how ruthless Angela Petrellis turned out to be.

@RMP … I like that thought about Sylar. The blood trail was too straight to seem like he crawled, I think. The theory that someone/something took him redeems the episode a bit.

WOW. Sounds like everybody was pretty disappointed by the HEROES finale. Still, I’d like to see it for myself and I FORGOT TO SET MY TiVo!!!!! Can anyone tell me if there’s a scheduled encore presentation? On SCIFI maybe?

Thanks
Chris

I liked the finale. Among its strengths – the heroes working together, an excellent sense of the three generations (Molly and Micah in the elevator being the 3rd generation), Nathan’s understimated power saving the day … True, it wasn’t a blockbuster, but I think it set the stage for the continuing story well … http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/05/heroes-volume-one-finale.html

I find all the back and forth highly amusing.

I have been mostly unhappy with Heroes the whole season, and I still love Lost. I won’t tell anyone to “relax” because if you don’t like it, you don’t like it! And if you do like it, you’re lucky!

I hated the finale, and it wasn’t because it wasn’t flashy effects and a big showdown, but because it was boring. The whole show was slow and rehashed things they’d already done/said/talked about in the previous shows. I didn’t think anyone acted particularly out of character, but wasn’t particularly impressed by anyone, either. The one thing I liked a lot was Nikki slamming Sylar. After that, it was all huddling against the wall. Yaaawwwn.

I hate that they “killed” Peter and Nathan. Logically, Peter should not be able to survive the forces that would blow apart a city, and a fall from that height would smash him into bits unable to regenerate. I think it’s likely that they will bring him back, despite that. Also, as fast as Nathan can fly, he shouldn’t have been able to escape the blast, but they will probably do that, too.

I WAS pleased that they vanquished the enemy until I saw he’d crawled down a sewer. The theory that Molly’s Bigger Bad might have taken him instead is intriguing and if that’s the case, great.

I unfortunately agree with every single thing you said.
It’s like they cheated the viewers, it’s soooo dissapointing. And they claimed to NOT do what Lost did wrong. Sure they concluded a storyline and gave us some answers but atleast Lost delivers good writing usually. I’m hoping for a better Lost finale than this one, geez.

You know, I have to address those who seem to think that people who didn’t like the finale have only themselves to blame for building it up to be more than it could possibly be: Sorry, but that’s the network’s fault. From the beginning, they’ve created campaign after campaign which were designed to build excitement toward the finale. Their “Save the cheerleader, save the world” campaign worked brilliantly and, more importantly, led up to an amazing episode filled with twists and shocks. In other words, it delivered. The second half of the season, however, did not. And that is especially true of the finale. I’d like to have been in the screening room when the folks at Heroes showed the network execs that final episode. I guarantee at least a few of those execs thought to themselves, “Oh, crap… we are gonna get so much flack for this lackluster piece of tripe.”

Viewers aren’t to blame for the fact that the show didn’t live up to expectations. That’s entirely on the writers, who seemed to pull a stephen king: In so many of his books, there’s a great plot, decent characters and then, suddenly, you get to the end and it just sits there. The same thing happened here. The writers failed to deliver… the finale was badly written and poorly executed on so many levels. Saying they didn’t have the budget for a big blow-out is also a cop-out as they could have done the episode with almost no special effects had the script been strong. But by delivering a weak script, a lame showdown and a failure to AT LEAST give impressive special effects, the show failed on pretty much every level. And that sure as hell ain’t the fault of the viewers.

There are too many things to list, but you’ve made a big dent with your comments. Missy Peregrym did not have a second power however, she was first Micah then she changed to Jessica, I don’t recall them being in sight at the same time. When Niki went to check on Micah, he was gone. The real Micah was in a closet.

I wish I could wrap my head around the rest, it was so disappointing and had so many plot holes. You are right, drop the brand bullshit and write a decent tv show.

Oh sorry for the double post, but Ellinorianne, U should check woody first post. And TVaddict realise it too. That woman powers are not just self-changing, but more like illusions in the mind of the target. BTW, typical role-playing game spell XD Mental Illusions

well, i think there are a lot of things that they could have ended on a better way. but the big deal is that i was expecting a double episode and it didn´t came. this one might be the reason why we haven´t seen the big fight we were hoping for.
·i want to know what powers do the parents of our heroes have.
·i don´t think nathan is dead, he doesn´t have to, he could just have leaving is brother on the air before exploding.
·i think they made a mistake with missy, because the shape she was showing to us, wasn´t her real one as she told mika when she couldn´t stop eating.
·sylar can´t be dead. on a comic book you never kill the first archyenemy at the first big battle (the heroes allways need a nemesis)
·i need to know the new super-enemy that the girl is afraid of
·why does hiro stab so easily sylar? the moves that his father taught him wasn´t about anything like that
…
i could go on for hours but i hope you understand what i wanted to say. they explained some things and they didn´t with others. that´s how tv works, they need us to continue watching the show and that´s what we are going to do. i only wait that they continue the second season just where the first ended and we don´t miss anything that our heroes lives.

I feel like a part of me has died inside. The WHOLE point of the entire season has been leading up to this episode, and we don’t even get a 2-hour episode? i seriously think that they ran out of money, were forced to cut it to one hour and make up a cheesy staircase showdown at night when they wouldn’t have to hire any extras. I imagined the finale having a big uber all-out brawl (during the day) in the street like Peter’s dream, where everyone got a taste of the battle. Nikki’s pathetic one-hit-wonder made me think we were getting to the good stuff, and then Peter’s all “Be with your family… it’s cheaper.” makes me sick. One of the prime reasons i loved the show was because i had absolute faith that it was going somewhere, somewhere good. but now, i have no idea what to expect… I can only hope that maybe the minds behind Heroes will have the self-awareness to realize their unforgivable mistake and do it right next year.

Overall impression: LAME

Forget all the inconsistencies and outright contradictions having to do with powers–this seems to be a hallmark of the show (some of my season favorites: when Claire stops Ted’s explosion–her flesh is melting, but the plastic syringe she is holding is just fine; Hiro and Ando are right outside his mother’s window, but Sylar can’t hear them–or just see them for crying out loud!)

Forget the outright idiocy of some of the show’s scenes (when Peter first faced Sylar in Mohinder’s apartment are we really supposed to believe he turned invisible and then just stood there and turned his back on Sylar?)

As some have already stated, what this episode really lacked was strong writing. There was no build-up, no suspense, no sense of urgency. The whole season was building to this point. We already know the confrontation is coming. We know someone is going to explode. Come on writers, you’ve got to do more than just get all your main characters together in one spot! The plotting, the pacing–the plodding pacing!–could have been so much better.

And the big confrontation? What a letdown. I love the idea of the heroes coming together in an impromptu team-up to take on Sylar, but this was far from the epic battle we were led to expect. Even the fight between Peter and Sylar in the future episode had more excitement–and we never even got to see the fight!

I join my voice with TVaddict in pleading with Tim Kring–put down the merchandising contracts and step away from the marketing department. Sit your butt back down in front of your laptop and start writing–that’s your power. Don’t pull a Sylar. One power is enough. Be our hero (sorry TVaddict, I just couldn’t help it!)

Episode definitly sucked. No reason to watch next season- For What? Another hyped build up and another disappointing completion. Better things to do with my time. Smallville’s season finale’s are way better even though they disappoint me throughout the whole season. So much wasted potential. It seems like most viewers agree. The ones that liked it probably thought Superman Returns was a good movie too. Hey I guess everyone has their own opinion.

I too was ultimately dissapointed. So much so that even though I know I will watch next season, if another similar show came up suring the same timeframe it is likely that I would switch (wonder if the other networks are thinking?)…

To me the episode was more of a week before the finale than the finale itself. Here’s some of my issues and how I would have written the last chapter…

1. We were shown that Candice’s eating habits are unhealthy to say the least. To have Micah actually say “I have an uncle that eats like you, he’s huge” and then not do anything with it was a big let down. When Nikki knocked her out she obviously lost control of her power. The fake dead Micah and her fake Jessica image dissappeared. This was an opportunity to show what Candice really looks like. If they end up trying to say that because she always has the “pretty Candice” image in place that it would take more than being knocked out for it to be lost then I will lost even more respect for this show. Also, with her powers, she could have tortured Nikki much more than just having her see dead Micah. She told Micah a week before that she could make him see things that would make him rip his eyes out. Ummmm…. dead Micah is a far stretch from making Nikki see something so bad that she would rip her eyes out. Sure, seeing Micah dead was devastatig, but it could have been seeing Micah being tortured, or something like that…

My way: Here’s what I would have done:

I would have had Sylar get Candice’s powers early on in the finale. He should have come in and Candice should have then used her powers to create a living nightmare for Sylar. But with his original powers of “knowing how things work” he sublimely would have ended up working out of the horror to see things for what they truly were and then he could have attacked. The moment he did his little finger, pointing, cut brain out thingee Candice would return to her normal state which would have been this obese, bloated, disgusting woman.

and now Sylar would have this ability that the writers could go crazy with…

2. The shwo down between Peter and Sylar. How lame!!! It was nothing more than Sylar pretending to be Darth Vader and ultra powerful Peter being a wimp. Sure it was great for him to get Nikki’s powers and use them against Sylar, but they should have at least showed us that Sylar was using a TK shield to block them. I mean, these powers have been used to rip people in half, but Sylar was able to take being smacked down what, a half dozen times. Again it could be assumed that he was using his Telekenesis to block, but they should have showed us!

3. Peter losing control of the radiation powers. This seemed a bit out of nowhere, though of course we did expect it. The writer’s should have had an actual impact cause the loss of control.

4. Hiro’s killing blow. Ummm…. appear ten feet away and just run up to skewer Sylar. How bad is that. No time stopping, no great use of his time traveling powers again Sylar. Really bad!

5. Radiation should kind of burn or something. I mean when Ted was glowing orange/red at Claire’s house she got burned up. Sure when he burned birhgt, which was more blueish, it was just an em pulse. But Peter was glowing orange. No one should have been able to get close to him, which would have made it much tought that just having brother dearest swoop down and say “I’m not leaving you Peter”. LAME!!!!!

Here’s how I would have done it…

Sylar now has Candice’s powers and maybe we could have been shown him getting control of them. Using his innate ability coupled with Charlie’s he should be able to learn control very fast. So, Syalr goes to the final showdown prepared. He hears Parkman coming up behind him and uses Candice’s powers to make Peter and Nikki (and all) think that Parkman is Sylar. Nikki rips the meter out of the ground herself and beaat Parkman down, he’s out and maybe even dead!!! Sylar can then let the image drop to show everyone what they did. Molly can now freak out. If we really wanted to make it good we could have had bennet shoot Parkman thinking it was Sylar. Parkman is now dead and gone… YES!!!!!

Next, we have Hiro show up to fight Sylar. Again Sylar uses Candice’s powers to make Hiro see Peter as Sylar. Hiro then attacks Peter and plunges his sword into peter chest. Of course the audience would not know that this is not Sylar until Hiro attacks and when Sylar heals (because Peter has Claire’s powers) Hiro could have stated “But we saved the cheerleader?”.

Commercial break.

This triggers Peter’s loss of Ted’s powers. While Peter is starting to lose control, Hiro realizes what Syalr did and turns to attack. He dissappears and appears right behind Sylar. Sylar turns to confront Hiro. He disappears again and appears behind him, he turn again. This happens over and over, very fast with Syalr screaming “Will you stand still!” Finally Hiro plunges the sword into Sylar’s chest!!!

But Peter is out of control. He is begging Claire to shoot him, but instead she steps forward talking words of comfort. The radiation is burning the skin from her arm as she reaches out to him, but her power keeps it regenerating. He is losing control, everyone else is running away to take cover. bennet is running towards his daughter begging Hiro, the true Hero to do something. Hiro runs forward, grabs Claire’s other hand and through this three wy connection teleports Clair, Peter and himself away.

Time for a commercial break…

Next you see Peter and Claire landing in the middle of a desert at about the same time that Peter explodes. He’s safe either because he has Claire’s powers or because having Ted’s powers comes with not being affected by them. Claire gets blown away, but her powers lert her regenerate.

Hiro, possibly due to the explotion happening while traveling through time, gets separated from the others and lands in fuedal Japan as we were shown.

Sylar can still get away, but again I would have done it through a different means and it would have happened due to Sylar’s powers.

Also, shouldn’t Sylar have used the melting power on the vehicle door when he killed Ted? Too much telekenesis!

Also, I think they should (maybe the did) make it so that Peter can only use one power at a time. This way he can have more powers than Sylar, but Sylar can use them better.

Anyway, there’s my rant.

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Yes another premature ejaculation of a finale. I guess the effects budget was cut in the current economic crisis. Peter/Sylar epic battles have come down to fistfights and sedatives.

The whole season just rang disingenuous.